From LMacNeill at comcast.net Fri Sep 4 14:39:28 2009 From: LMacNeill at comcast.net (Laurence MacNeill) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:39:28 -0400 Subject: [GALAXIE] Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator... In-Reply-To: <14556042.1251740591031.JavaMail.root@n24> References: <14556042.1251740591031.JavaMail.root@n24> Message-ID: <20090904173940.53A18880A6B@twistedpair.ca> Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator for my manual-crank window on the driver's-door of my '68 G500 Convertible. If anyone knows of one in good shape, I'd greatly appreciate a heads-up. Thanks, Laurence MacNeill Mableton, GA Atlanta Galaxies Chapter of the Ford Galaxie Club of America ( http://atlantagalaxies.galaxieclub.com/ ) ( FGCoA Lifetime Member # 86 ) Owner, 1968 Galaxie 500 Convertible (The above message may represent opinion, rather than fact. Your mileage may vary. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. Professional driver, closed course. Do not attempt.) END IRS TYRANNY NOW: http://www.fairtax.org/ SHUT DOWN THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM: http://www.freedomtofascism.com/ From youneverbelieved at yahoo.com Fri Sep 4 14:57:37 2009 From: youneverbelieved at yahoo.com (A. Braithwaite Jenkins) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GALAXIE] Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator... In-Reply-To: <20090904173940.53A18880A6B@twistedpair.ca> References: <14556042.1251740591031.JavaMail.root@n24> <20090904173940.53A18880A6B@twistedpair.ca> Message-ID: <239719.62036.qm@web30806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Whoa, those are a pain to come by in good condition. I don't have one to sell, but a bit of helpful advice; the same regulars were used for '65-'68 full sized two door hardtops and convertables, so that may help broaden your search. Adam 1968 Ford Galaxie 390 2bbl Mean Green ________________________________ From: Laurence MacNeill To: A list for Ford Galaxie owners. Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 10:39:28 AM Subject: [GALAXIE] Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator... Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator for my manual-crank window on the driver's-door of my '68 G500 Convertible. If anyone knows of one in good shape, I'd greatly appreciate a heads-up. Thanks, Laurence MacNeill Mableton, GA Atlanta Galaxies Chapter of the Ford Galaxie Club of America ( http://atlantagalaxies.galaxieclub.com/ ) ( FGCoA Lifetime Member # 86 ) Owner, 1968 Galaxie 500 Convertible (The above message may represent opinion, rather than fact. Your mileage may vary. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. Professional driver, closed course. Do not attempt.) END IRS TYRANNY NOW: http://www.fairtax.org/ SHUT DOWN THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM: http://www.freedomtofascism.com/ _______________________________________________ Galaxie mailing list Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090904/049deee3/attachment.html From GalaxiesNW at aol.com Fri Sep 4 18:10:26 2009 From: GalaxiesNW at aol.com (GalaxiesNW at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 17:10:26 EDT Subject: [GALAXIE] Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator... Message-ID: Call Stan the Ford man in Battle ground WA. I think he has a few pasts cars other than 61-64. 360.687.1216 Joe DeTemple Galaxies NW galaxiesNW at aol.com _www.galaxiesnw.com_ (http://www.galaxiesnw.com/) In a message dated 9/4/2009 10:58:05 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, youneverbelieved at yahoo.com writes: Whoa, those are a pain to come by in good condition. I don't have one to sell, but a bit of helpful advice; the same regulars were used for '65-'68 full sized two door hardtops and convertables, so that may help broaden your search. Adam 1968 Ford Galaxie 390 2bbl Mean Green ____________________________________ From: Laurence MacNeill To: A list for Ford Galaxie owners. Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 10:39:28 AM Subject: [GALAXIE] Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator... Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator for my manual-crank window on the driver's-door of my '68 G500 Convertible. If anyone knows of one in good shape, I'd greatly appreciate a heads-up. Thanks, Laurence MacNeill Mableton, GA Atlanta Galaxies Chapter of the Ford Galaxie Club of America ( _http://atlantagalaxies.galaxieclub.com/_ (http://atlantagalaxies.galaxieclub.com/) ) ( FGCoA Lifetime Member # 86 ) Owner, 1968 Galaxie 500 Convertible (The above message may represent opinion, rather than fact. Your mileage may vary. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. Professional driver, closed course. Do not attempt.) END IRS TYRANNY NOW: _http://www.fairtax.org/_ (http://www.fairtax.org/) SHUT DOWN THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM: _http://www.freedomtofascism.com/_ (http://www.freedomtofascism.com/) _______________________________________________ Galaxie mailing list _Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca_ (mailto:Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca) _http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie_ (http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie) _______________________________________________ Galaxie mailing list Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090904/d171b89b/attachment.html From GalaxiesNW at aol.com Fri Sep 4 18:13:11 2009 From: GalaxiesNW at aol.com (GalaxiesNW at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 17:13:11 EDT Subject: [GALAXIE] Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator... Message-ID: That's suppose to be "parts" cars, not past cars. My fingers think faster than my speller. Joe DeTemple Galaxies NW galaxiesNW at aol.com _www.galaxiesnw.com_ (http://www.galaxiesnw.com/) In a message dated 9/4/2009 2:11:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, GalaxiesNW at aol.com writes: Call Stan the Ford man in Battle ground WA. I think he has a few pasts cars other than 61-64. 360.687.1216 Joe DeTemple Galaxies NW galaxiesNW at aol.com _www.galaxiesnw.com_ (http://www.galaxiesnw.com/) In a message dated 9/4/2009 10:58:05 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, youneverbelieved at yahoo.com writes: Whoa, those are a pain to come by in good condition. I don't have one to sell, but a bit of helpful advice; the same regulars were used for '65-'68 full sized two door hardtops and convertables, so that may help broaden your search. Adam 1968 Ford Galaxie 390 2bbl Mean Green ____________________________________ From: Laurence MacNeill To: A list for Ford Galaxie owners. Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 10:39:28 AM Subject: [GALAXIE] Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator... Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator for my manual-crank window on the driver's-door of my '68 G500 Convertible. If anyone knows of one in good shape, I'd greatly appreciate a heads-up. Thanks, Laurence MacNeill Mableton, GA Atlanta Galaxies Chapter of the Ford Galaxie Club of America ( _http://atlantagalaxies.galaxieclub.com/_ (http://atlantagalaxies.galaxieclub.com/) ) ( FGCoA Lifetime Member # 86 ) Owner, 1968 Galaxie 500 Convertible (The above message may represent opinion, rather than fact. Your mileage may vary. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. 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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090904/6fa023d9/attachment-0001.html From warren at holybee.net Fri Sep 4 21:53:33 2009 From: warren at holybee.net (Warren Holybee) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 17:53:33 -0700 Subject: [GALAXIE] Galaxie Digest, Vol 78, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm not sure if my idea will work. I just ordered a few rebuilt regulators for other ford cars. I think like a 68 mustang and a t- bird. They looked sorta close in the picture anyway. I got a couple from different models to experiment with. I am hoping that I can drill the rivets from the drive mechanism the door handle attached to (which looked the same in the picture) and use those new parts to rebuild my old regulators. The rollers are easy to replace and aside from that it seems like the mechanism and a cleaning will make them like new. It's a couple hundred dollar experiment to buy the parts from a couple cars and I'm crossing my finger it will pay off. I'll let you know. > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:39:28 -0400 > From: Laurence MacNeill > Subject: [GALAXIE] Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator... > To: "A list for Ford Galaxie owners." > Message-ID: <20090904173940.53A18880A6B at twistedpair.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator for my manual-crank window on the > driver's-door of my '68 G500 Convertible. If anyone knows of one in > good shape, I'd greatly appreciate a heads-up. > > Thanks, > > Laurence MacNeill > Mableton, GA > Atlanta Galaxies Chapter of > the Ford Galaxie Club of America > ( http://atlantagalaxies.galaxieclub.com/ ) > ( FGCoA Lifetime Member # 86 ) > Owner, 1968 Galaxie 500 Convertible From mercurycat21 at hotmail.com Sat Sep 5 01:20:25 2009 From: mercurycat21 at hotmail.com (kenneth gucker) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 00:20:25 -0400 Subject: [GALAXIE] Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator... In-Reply-To: <20090904173940.53A18880A6B@twistedpair.ca> References: <14556042.1251740591031.JavaMail.root@n24> <20090904173940.53A18880A6B@twistedpair.ca> Message-ID: Hi Laurence, I should have a few from my 66 parts car. Email me if interested. Thanks Ken mercurycat21 at hotmail.com > Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:39:28 -0400 > To: galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca > From: LMacNeill at comcast.net > Subject: [GALAXIE] Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator... > > Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator for my manual-crank window on the > driver's-door of my '68 G500 Convertible. If anyone knows of one in > good shape, I'd greatly appreciate a heads-up. > > Thanks, > > Laurence MacNeill > Mableton, GA > Atlanta Galaxies Chapter of > the Ford Galaxie Club of America > ( http://atlantagalaxies.galaxieclub.com/ ) > ( FGCoA Lifetime Member # 86 ) > Owner, 1968 Galaxie 500 Convertible > > (The above message may represent opinion, rather than fact. Your > mileage may vary. Objects in mirror are closer than they > appear. Professional driver, closed course. Do not attempt.) > > END IRS TYRANNY NOW: > http://www.fairtax.org/ > > SHUT DOWN THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM: > http://www.freedomtofascism.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Galaxie mailing list > Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca > http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you?re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090905/407dcfbe/attachment.html From daleg at wamego.net Sat Sep 5 16:48:33 2009 From: daleg at wamego.net (Dale Gier) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:48:33 -0500 Subject: [GALAXIE] door regulator info In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: All, Yes. The basic regulator mechanism "gear piece" will swap across. It is attached to the window "lift mechanism" ( the X or scissor looking thang ) by three rivets. Every 4dr Galaxie parts car I go through, I salvage the rear regulators, cuz they are usually pretty tight and not worn out and loosey like the front ones. I have yet to make a transplant of these donor parts yet, but I have the spare parts for the future. The original rivets will have to be replaced with shallow flat headed screws. Or rivets if they will clear the window "lift mechanism". Look and you'll understand what I mean. Dale 65 LTD 2dr ( rusty frame - imagine that ) 66 Galaxie 500 2dr 67 Galaxie 500 4dr parts car ( solid frame for 65 LTD ) 68 Mercury Monterey 4dr Two RUST FREE Mercury ( 66 and 67 ) frames for sale ( FYI: 4 inches longer than Ford frame ) PS: I have ran across different threads for the screw that holds the window crank on. On the Galaxies it broke down to the 65/66 and then the 67/68 model years. These screws are either allen ( 65/66 - course thread ) or phillips headed ( 67/68 - fine threads ). Just a technicality, but something you may need to keep in mind. Also, when breaking apart a lift mechanism/regulator assembly, be wary of the tension in the coiled up spring that makes the glass go up easier. If you're not careful, it will break loose and hurt you. Don't ask me how I know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Holybee" To: Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [GALAXIE] Galaxie Digest, Vol 78, Issue 1 > I'm not sure if my idea will work. I just ordered a few rebuilt > regulators for other ford cars. I think like a 68 mustang and a t- > bird. They looked sorta close in the picture anyway. I got a couple > from different models to experiment with. I am hoping that I can drill > the rivets from the drive mechanism the door handle attached to (which > looked the same in the picture) and use those new parts to rebuild my > old regulators. The rollers are easy to replace and aside from that it > seems like the mechanism and a cleaning will make them like new. > > It's a couple hundred dollar experiment to buy the parts from a couple > cars and I'm crossing my finger it will pay off. I'll let you know. > >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:39:28 -0400 >> From: Laurence MacNeill >> Subject: [GALAXIE] Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator... >> To: "A list for Ford Galaxie owners." >> Message-ID: <20090904173940.53A18880A6B at twistedpair.ca> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >> >> Lookin' to buy a Window Regulator for my manual-crank window on the >> driver's-door of my '68 G500 Convertible. If anyone knows of one in >> good shape, I'd greatly appreciate a heads-up. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Laurence MacNeill >> Mableton, GA >> Atlanta Galaxies Chapter of >> the Ford Galaxie Club of America >> ( http://atlantagalaxies.galaxieclub.com/ ) >> ( FGCoA Lifetime Member # 86 ) >> Owner, 1968 Galaxie 500 Convertible From bbmb at sympatico.ca Thu Sep 17 19:57:17 2009 From: bbmb at sympatico.ca (Bill Bechard) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:57:17 -0400 Subject: [GALAXIE] Barely active thermostat gauge Message-ID: The thermostat gauge on my 64 Galaxie goes from the bottom side of the cold line to the top half of the line when warm. I am very much a rookie here but am thinking it should be going further than that. I did test the gauge with batteries as per the service manual and it did make it a quarter of the way to hot ( batteries were on the week side). I really do want to take it out for a good drive but am afraid to do so if as I am assuming this is not working properly. Would this be a bad gauge, bad sending unit ( not sure where that is located) or something else? All help is greatly appreciated. Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090917/f2a7755f/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 2051 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090917/f2a7755f/attachment.gif From ckline24 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 17 20:30:39 2009 From: ckline24 at yahoo.com (Chris Cline) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:30:39 CDT Subject: [GALAXIE] Barely active thermostat gauge Message-ID: <20090917233426.83DFD88179D@twistedpair.ca> If you suspect a problem with the gauge setup then bypass it alltogether. Just pop into the local parts store and get a mechanical tep gague kit. it doesn't have to be a permanent install but it can confim or deny any trouble withe the factory setup. Chris -----Original Message----- Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:57:38 pm To: From: "Bill Bechard" Subject: [GALAXIE] Barely active thermostat gauge The thermostat gauge on my 64 Galaxie goes from the bottom side of the cold line to the top half of the line when warm. I am very much a rookie here but am thinking it should be going further than that. I did test the gauge with batteries as per the service manual and it did make it a quarter of the way to hot ( batteries were on the week side). I really do want to take it out for a good drive but am afraid to do so if as I am assuming this is not working properly. Would this be a bad gauge, bad sending unit ( not sure where that is located) or something else? All help is greatly appreciated. Bill _______________________________________________ Galaxie mailing list Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie From bbmb at sympatico.ca Thu Sep 17 20:58:41 2009 From: bbmb at sympatico.ca (Bill Bechard) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:58:41 -0400 Subject: [GALAXIE] Barely active thermostat gauge In-Reply-To: <20090917233426.83DFD88179D@twistedpair.ca> References: <20090917233426.83DFD88179D@twistedpair.ca> Message-ID: I will give that a shot thank you -----Original Message----- From: galaxie-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca [mailto:galaxie-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of Chris Cline Sent: September-17-09 7:31 PM To: galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca Subject: Re: [GALAXIE] Barely active thermostat gauge If you suspect a problem with the gauge setup then bypass it alltogether. Just pop into the local parts store and get a mechanical tep gague kit. it doesn't have to be a permanent install but it can confim or deny any trouble withe the factory setup. Chris -----Original Message----- Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:57:38 pm To: From: "Bill Bechard" Subject: [GALAXIE] Barely active thermostat gauge The thermostat gauge on my 64 Galaxie goes from the bottom side of the cold line to the top half of the line when warm. I am very much a rookie here but am thinking it should be going further than that. I did test the gauge with batteries as per the service manual and it did make it a quarter of the way to hot ( batteries were on the week side). I really do want to take it out for a good drive but am afraid to do so if as I am assuming this is not working properly. Would this be a bad gauge, bad sending unit ( not sure where that is located) or something else? All help is greatly appreciated. Bill _______________________________________________ Galaxie mailing list Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie _______________________________________________ Galaxie mailing list Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie From galaxierus at aol.com Thu Sep 17 22:32:00 2009 From: galaxierus at aol.com (galaxierus at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:32:00 -0400 Subject: [GALAXIE] Barely active thermostat gauge In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC0616F406B5A6-4034-1202C@webmail-d074.sysops.aol.com> ? Actually, the normal? position of the gauge is in the middle. If it tends to be at the upper end, or highter, you are over heating. ? Be happy it is only at the top of that middle line. ?You will most likely be needing a radiator, in the near future. Russ Owens 65-66 Galaxie Collector Milwaukee WI -----Original Message----- From: Bill Bechard To: galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca Sent: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 5:57 pm Subject: [GALAXIE] Barely active thermostat gauge The thermostat gauge on my 64 Galaxie goes from the bottom side of the cold line to the top half of the line when warm. I am very much a rookie here but am thinking it should be going further than that. I did test the gauge with batteries as per the service manual? and it did make it a quarter of the way to hot ( batteries were on the week side). I really do want to take it out for a good drive but am afraid to do so if as I am assuming this is not working properly. Would this be a bad gauge, bad sending unit ( not sure where that is located) or something else? All help is greatly appreciated. ? Bill _______________________________________________ Galaxie mailing list Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090917/a38799f1/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 2051 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090917/a38799f1/attachment.gif From dngbat1 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 18 11:49:00 2009 From: dngbat1 at yahoo.com (Deb) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GALAXIE] 9" out of my car opened and revealed...what is this? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <163432.49774.qm@web52710.mail.re2.yahoo.com> A couple years ago I had my rearend in my '64 Galaxie "rebuilt". After this "rebuild" it became a perma-posi (own tech term) as if it were welded. Because I got what I paid for and time was short before we were to move to the NW I didn't bother with the shop that did it and figured eventually I would replace it or get it done the correct way. Recently a friend of mine took it home after I finally got it swapped out and he found it wasn't welded but found this instead. Any idea just what this is? I know i'm clueless as I know nothing about rearends. http://www.fordmuscle.com/forums/all-ford-techboard/489827-help-me-identify-these-9-parts.html Deb From galaxierus at aol.com Fri Sep 18 15:15:22 2009 From: galaxierus at aol.com (galaxierus at aol.com) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:15:22 -0400 Subject: [GALAXIE] 9" out of my car opened and revealed...what is this? In-Reply-To: <163432.49774.qm@web52710.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CC06A31F174580-10D8-EBB5@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> ? I have never seen anything like that, but it is for sure a fact, that the round wheel works much better than those square ones. Russ Owens 65-66 Galaxie Collector Milwaukee WI -----Original Message----- From: Deb To: galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca Sent: Fri, Sep 18, 2009 9:49 am Subject: [GALAXIE] 9" out of my car opened and revealed...what is this? A couple years ago I had my rearend in my '64 Galaxie "rebuilt". After this "rebuild" it became a perma-posi (own tech term) as if it were welded. Because I got what I paid for and time was short before we were to move to the NW I didn't bother with the shop that did it and figured eventually I would replace it or get it done the correct way. Recently a friend of mine took it home after I finally got it swapped out and he found it wasn't welded but found this instead. Any idea just what this is? I know i'm clueless as I know nothing about rearends. http://www.fordmuscle.com/forums/all-ford-techboard/489827-help-me-identify-these-9-parts.html Deb _______________________________________________ Galaxie mailing list Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090918/e54a6417/attachment.html From ekimllahsram at gmail.com Fri Sep 18 16:35:32 2009 From: ekimllahsram at gmail.com (Mike Marshall) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:35:32 -0400 Subject: [GALAXIE] 9" out of my car opened and revealed...what is this? References: <163432.49774.qm@web52710.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3C0B9AABED014CDC9CE8260F5A91C580@D7NX7221> my neighbor (Marty Snowball a national champion drag racer) is an expert on 9 inch rear-ends from his drag racing days...he told me the following: If he is using the correct terminology, it is a Detroit locker. They made them to replace the traction lock which is a clutch deal. A locker has mechanical dogs that lock and unlock to keep both wheels in sync. When you go around corners the dogs unlock. When you are going straight the dogs lock up. they are not good for the street, they are real noisy with the dogs locking and unlocking all the time. I have had them unlock during a drag racing run and the car immediately goes side ways. More than one car hit the wall because of them. I started to shim the dogs so they cannot unlock, which makes them a spool and.... I should also say that there is a later model of the locker that they have modified over in the last few years that are supposed to be better, but I have not had one apart to see what they did. and.... It is the weakest version of the 9 inch. It is a two spider open differential. see the two side gears there are all tore up? the stronger one has 4 side gears and will not tear up. BUT that is an open rear, it has no clutches or dogs to tie the axles together. I hope this helps.... Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deb" To: Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: [GALAXIE] 9" out of my car opened and revealed...what is this? >A couple years ago I had my rear-end in my '64 Galaxie "rebuilt". After >this "rebuild" it became a perma-posi (own tech term) as if it were welded. >Because I got what I paid for and time was short before we were to move to >the NW I didn't bother with the shop that did it and figured eventually I >would replace it or get it done the correct way. > > Recently a friend of mine took it home after I finally got it swapped out > and he found it wasn't welded but found this instead. Any idea just what > this is? I know i'm clueless as I know nothing about rearends. > > http://www.fordmuscle.com/forums/all-ford-techboard/489827-help-me-identify-these-9-parts.html > > > Deb > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Galaxie mailing list > Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca > http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie From jnederhoed at yahoo.com Sun Sep 27 09:10:13 2009 From: jnederhoed at yahoo.com (John Nederhoed) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue Message-ID: <328621.39000.qm@web38206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I just rebuilt the front end (PST parts) and swapped over to 77 T-bird disc brakes. No problems going back together expect having to get a couple of brake line adpaters & rerouting both front brake lines. The problem is the camber seems to be extremely positive; top of tire pointing out. Prior to the rebuild the shim stack was about 1/2 inch and the tire looked vertical--now w/no shims it sticks out at the top about and inch. I even rotated the offset bolt at the front of the A-arm to see if it made a difference and it didn't seem to have an impact. So any ideas how to to get the correct settings? From ckline24 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 27 10:45:15 2009 From: ckline24 at yahoo.com (Chris Cline) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue In-Reply-To: <328621.39000.qm@web38206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <391962.5691.qm@web111416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I assume you used the spindles from the t-bird? I'll bet if you compare the two side by side, the t-bird spindles have more positive camber cast in. the only solution to that mess is shortening the upper control arm. It might be a good idea to haul it to the local alignment shop for a second opinion. --- On Sun, 9/27/09, John Nederhoed wrote: > From: John Nederhoed > Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue > To: "galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca" > Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 7:10 AM > I just rebuilt the front end (PST > parts) and swapped over to 77 T-bird disc brakes. No > problems going back together expect having to get a couple > of brake line adpaters & rerouting both front brake > lines. The problem is the camber seems to be extremely > positive; top of tire pointing out. Prior to the rebuild the > shim stack was about 1/2 inch and the tire looked > vertical--now w/no shims it sticks out at the top about and > inch. I even rotated the offset bolt at the front of the > A-arm to see if it made a difference and it didn't seem to > have an impact. So any ideas how to to get the correct > settings? > > > > ? ? ? > _______________________________________________ > Galaxie mailing list > Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca > http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie > From director at galaxieclub.com Sun Sep 27 11:34:42 2009 From: director at galaxieclub.com (Ford Galaxie Club of America) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:34:42 -0500 Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue In-Reply-To: <391962.5691.qm@web111416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <328621.39000.qm@web38206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090927093254.039bede0@pop.powweb.com> How far did you rotate the offset bolt? I have only head of this one time before and it was because the bolt offset shafts were shot. If you rotate it to the outside and down low at about a 45degree angle that is the "factory" position. If it is pointing anywhere else it is worn. And if it is pointing to the inside, which is the common way for it to wear it will cause the bottom control arm to be to far in which tilts the top out and that is what you describe. At 08:45 AM 9/27/2009, you wrote: >I assume you used the spindles from the t-bird? I'll bet if you compare >the two side by side, the t-bird spindles have more positive camber cast >in. the only solution to that mess is shortening the upper control arm. >It might be a good idea to haul it to the local alignment shop for a >second opinion. > >--- On Sun, 9/27/09, John Nederhoed wrote: > > > From: John Nederhoed > > Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue > > To: "galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca" > > Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 7:10 AM > > I just rebuilt the front end (PST > > parts) and swapped over to 77 T-bird disc brakes. No > > problems going back together expect having to get a couple > > of brake line adpaters & rerouting both front brake > > lines. The problem is the camber seems to be extremely > > positive; top of tire pointing out. Prior to the rebuild the > > shim stack was about 1/2 inch and the tire looked > > vertical--now w/no shims it sticks out at the top about and > > inch. I even rotated the offset bolt at the front of the > > A-arm to see if it made a difference and it didn't seem to > > have an impact. So any ideas how to to get the correct > > settings? > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Galaxie mailing list > > Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca > > http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Galaxie mailing list >Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca >http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie Thank You Mark Reynolds / Director GALAXIE... FORD for Thought! Visit Our Club Home Page @: http://www.galaxieclub.com ...be sure to join the Club at: http://www.galaxieclub.com/appl.html you can join or renew your dues using PayPal and a Visa or Master Card at: http://www.galaxieclub.com/clubcorner.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090927/d70823e2/attachment.html From jnederhoed at yahoo.com Sun Sep 27 12:45:45 2009 From: jnederhoed at yahoo.com (John Nederhoed) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue Message-ID: <693577.95608.qm@web38207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mark, The offset was in the up/dowm position before disassembly. It's been that way since 1988 when I put headers on it to give the car some more vertical clearance. Had the car aligned way back then in CA; since then have driven the car across country twice, w/o any alignment or tire wear issues. The only reason I swapped to disc's is I live in FL and trying too many panic stops here due to quality of other drivers & a tie rod end was worn out. The spindles were a target of opportunity at the Daytona U-pull it (2 for 1 day). Everytime I've seen another 64/63 up close, the first thing I've always look at is how the offset bolt is positioned. The majority have it sitting in the up/down position like mine. I'll try it at the 45 and down position. Just to clarify, the offset from the front of the car goes down at 45 then into the control arm. Thanks; I'll try it and see if it improves. From Djgrenoble at aol.com Sun Sep 27 18:33:02 2009 From: Djgrenoble at aol.com (Djgrenoble at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:33:02 EDT Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue Message-ID: John, That is exactly the same thing I trying to correct on my 63 right now. I've been experimenting for a month or so with fixes and the upper "A" arms is what I'm looking at right now. The guy who said to look at the T'bird spindles is correct, there's 1/2 -5/8 inch more offset cast into the spindle at the top on the T'bird than is on the Galaxie. One of the ideas I have is reversing the upper ball joint and using the same rivet / bolts holes. This moves the ball joint shaft about 3/4 inch towards the center of the car. That may be too much but that can be corrected by adding shims to the stack. Another is just moving the upper ball joint in towards the inner pivot as much as possible. That looks like it might get me about 3/8 inch. I also used the 78 T'bird spindles: rotors and calipers hearing they were are direct swap...not! My front end is all new: springs, shocks, bushings, cranks, and crank bushings. Keep me posted to any changes or ideas you come up with and I'll do the same. Doug Grenoble -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090927/7226f9f7/attachment.html From ckline24 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 27 20:25:03 2009 From: ckline24 at yahoo.com (Chris Cline) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue In-Reply-To: <693577.95608.qm@web38207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <961745.12018.qm@web111403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I looked at mine just a moment ago, the offset bolts were in the down/out position. --- On Sun, 9/27/09, John Nederhoed wrote: > From: John Nederhoed > Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue > To: galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca > Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 10:45 AM > Mark, > The offset was in the up/dowm position before disassembly. > It's been that way since 1988 when I put headers on it to > give the car some more vertical clearance. Had the car > aligned way back then in CA; since then have driven the car > across country twice, w/o any alignment or tire wear issues. > The only reason I swapped to disc's is I live in FL and > trying too many panic stops here due to quality of other > drivers & a tie rod end was worn out. The spindles were > a target of opportunity at the Daytona U-pull it (2 for 1 > day). > > Everytime I've seen another 64/63 up close, the first thing > I've always look at is how the offset bolt is positioned. > The majority have it sitting in the up/down position like > mine. I'll try it at the 45 and down position. Just to > clarify, the offset from the front of the car goes down at > 45 then into the control arm. > > Thanks; I'll try it and see if it improves. > > > > ? ? ? > _______________________________________________ > Galaxie mailing list > Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca > http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie > From jnederhoed at yahoo.com Sun Sep 27 20:41:16 2009 From: jnederhoed at yahoo.com (John Nederhoed) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue Message-ID: <517365.82887.qm@web38203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Doug, I never thought of turning the ball joint around; I tried to put it all back as it came apart. Maybe that's the root cause. Mark, I moved the offets to the 45 degree position and it seemed to help a little. When I disassembled it they were very tight & still had lube on the inner parts. I didn't remove the large (1 7/8?) nut from the frame becuase I didn't have a socket big enough. When I put it back in, I ran the offset all the way in by hand, then gave it about 2 more turns with a wrench to get it tight. That was the only way I could get the A-arm back in with a just little persauion. To move the offsets to 45 I loosened the 15/16 nut, then used a small pipe wrench. This is with the wheels off of the ground. From bradlin at westman.wave.ca Sun Sep 27 21:13:54 2009 From: bradlin at westman.wave.ca (Brad & Linda Johnson) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:13:54 -0500 Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue In-Reply-To: <328621.39000.qm@web38206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <328621.39000.qm@web38206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3C50965B04524EB597E72F2417E4BE81@Lightning> This seems to be a fairly common problem with using these spindles. I used spindles from a '74 Cougar (same basic spindle as the T-Bird I understand). At the same time, I did rebuild the rest of the front end. One thing I did was to replace the offsets with the high performance set up. This is comprised of inserts for the front and rear of the front frame member where the big offset bushing assembly threads into the frame. When time came to align, it was almost perfect (no shims anywhere), with the camber a hair on the positive side. I'm really not sure if using the replacement for the off set at the front made that much difference or I just got lucky. Three years later no uneven tire wear. I do expect at some point in time adjustability may become an issue. bj ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Nederhoed" To: Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue >I just rebuilt the front end (PST parts) and swapped over to 77 T-bird disc >brakes. No problems going back together expect having to get a couple of >brake line adpaters & rerouting both front brake lines. The problem is the >camber seems to be extremely positive; top of tire pointing out. Prior to >the rebuild the shim stack was about 1/2 inch and the tire looked >vertical--now w/no shims it sticks out at the top about and inch. I even >rotated the offset bolt at the front of the A-arm to see if it made a >difference and it didn't seem to have an impact. So any ideas how to to get >the correct settings? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Galaxie mailing list > Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca > http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2397 - Release Date: 09/26/09 17:51:00 From director at galaxieclub.com Sun Sep 27 21:57:26 2009 From: director at galaxieclub.com (Ford Galaxie Club of America) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:57:26 -0500 Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090927195639.03a0c558@pop.powweb.com> And are the offset shafts correctly adjusted? Believe me, they cause major problems if not installed to factory specs. I have seen MANY folks put these spindles on without a problem and I have heard of some with this problem. At 04:33 PM 9/27/2009, you wrote: >John, That is exactly the same thing I trying to correct on my 63 right >now. I've been experimenting for a month or so with fixes and the upper >"A" arms is what I'm looking at right now. The guy who said to look at the >T'bird spindles is correct, there's 1/2 -5/8 inch more offset cast into >the spindle at the top on the T'bird than is on the Galaxie. > One of the ideas I have is reversing the upper ball joint and using > the same rivet / bolts holes. This moves the ball joint shaft about 3/4 > inch towards the center of the car. That may be too much but that can be > corrected by adding shims to the stack. Another is just moving the upper > ball joint in towards the inner pivot as much as possible. That looks > like it might get me about 3/8 inch. > I also used the 78 T'bird spindles: rotors and calipers hearing they > were are direct swap...not! > My front end is all new: springs, shocks, bushings, cranks, and crank > bushings. > Keep me posted to any changes or ideas you come up with and I'll do > the same. > Doug Grenoble >_______________________________________________ >Galaxie mailing list >Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca >http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie Thank You Mark Reynolds / Director GALAXIE... FORD for Thought! Visit Our Club Home Page @: http://www.galaxieclub.com ...be sure to join the Club at: http://www.galaxieclub.com/appl.html you can join or renew your dues using PayPal and a Visa or Master Card at: http://www.galaxieclub.com/clubcorner.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090927/00ba15cc/attachment-0001.html From jnederhoed at yahoo.com Sun Sep 27 22:12:59 2009 From: jnederhoed at yahoo.com (John Nederhoed) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue Message-ID: <684677.2775.qm@web38201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Duh, the top ball joint can only be put on one way. It sounds like the front mounting bolt/bushing could be worn. So the questions are where can I get replacements or go to the straight shart setup. From director at galaxieclub.com Sun Sep 27 22:42:50 2009 From: director at galaxieclub.com (Ford Galaxie Club of America) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:42:50 -0500 Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue In-Reply-To: <961745.12018.qm@web111403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <693577.95608.qm@web38207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090927204207.03d2d110@pop.powweb.com> If you are going to use the offsets, maybe you could get the toe in stabilizer bar that Donahue sells and that will lock them in the position they need to be in. At 06:25 PM 9/27/2009, you wrote: >I looked at mine just a moment ago, the offset bolts were in the down/out >position. > >--- On Sun, 9/27/09, John Nederhoed wrote: > > > From: John Nederhoed > > Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue > > To: galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca > > Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 10:45 AM > > Mark, > > The offset was in the up/dowm position before disassembly. > > It's been that way since 1988 when I put headers on it to > > give the car some more vertical clearance. Had the car > > aligned way back then in CA; since then have driven the car > > across country twice, w/o any alignment or tire wear issues. > > The only reason I swapped to disc's is I live in FL and > > trying too many panic stops here due to quality of other > > drivers & a tie rod end was worn out. The spindles were > > a target of opportunity at the Daytona U-pull it (2 for 1 > > day). > > > > Everytime I've seen another 64/63 up close, the first thing > > I've always look at is how the offset bolt is positioned. > > The majority have it sitting in the up/down position like > > mine. I'll try it at the 45 and down position. Just to > > clarify, the offset from the front of the car goes down at > > 45 then into the control arm. > > > > Thanks; I'll try it and see if it improves. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Galaxie mailing list > > Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca > > http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Galaxie mailing list >Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca >http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie Thank You Mark Reynolds / Director GALAXIE... FORD for Thought! Visit Our Club Home Page @: http://www.galaxieclub.com ...be sure to join the Club at: http://www.galaxieclub.com/appl.html you can join or renew your dues using PayPal and a Visa or Master Card at: http://www.galaxieclub.com/clubcorner.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090927/55307501/attachment.html From director at galaxieclub.com Sun Sep 27 22:43:57 2009 From: director at galaxieclub.com (Ford Galaxie Club of America) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:43:57 -0500 Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue In-Reply-To: <517365.82887.qm@web38203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090927204330.03ccfae0@pop.powweb.com> But the offset will move around and when you lower the car it will end up in a different position I suspect. At 06:41 PM 9/27/2009, you wrote: >Doug, > I never thought of turning the ball joint around; I tried to put it all > back as it came apart. Maybe that's the root cause. > >Mark, > I moved the offets to the 45 degree position and it seemed to help a > little. When I disassembled it they were very tight & still had lube on > the inner parts. I didn't remove the large (1 7/8?) nut from the frame > becuase I didn't have a socket big enough. When I put it back in, I ran > the offset all the way in by hand, then gave it about 2 more turns with a > wrench to get it tight. That was the only way I could get the A-arm back > in with a just little persauion. To move the offsets to 45 I loosened the > 15/16 nut, then used a small pipe wrench. This is with the wheels off of > the ground. > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Galaxie mailing list >Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca >http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie Thank You Mark Reynolds / Director GALAXIE... FORD for Thought! Visit Our Club Home Page @: http://www.galaxieclub.com ...be sure to join the Club at: http://www.galaxieclub.com/appl.html you can join or renew your dues using PayPal and a Visa or Master Card at: http://www.galaxieclub.com/clubcorner.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090927/6f10a650/attachment.html From director at galaxieclub.com Sun Sep 27 22:45:37 2009 From: director at galaxieclub.com (Ford Galaxie Club of America) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:45:37 -0500 Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue In-Reply-To: <3C50965B04524EB597E72F2417E4BE81@Lightning> References: <328621.39000.qm@web38206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <328621.39000.qm@web38206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20090927204431.03cda7c0@pop.powweb.com> No, BJ...you are actually the more common. I don't hear of alignment issues with those spindles except once in a while. The straight shaft you put in is the way to go... At 07:13 PM 9/27/2009, you wrote: >This seems to be a fairly common problem with using these spindles. I used >spindles from a '74 Cougar (same basic spindle as the T-Bird I understand). >At the same time, I did rebuild the rest of the front end. One thing I did >was to replace the offsets with the high performance set up. This is >comprised of inserts for the front and rear of the front frame member where >the big offset bushing assembly threads into the frame. > >When time came to align, it was almost perfect (no shims anywhere), with the >camber a hair on the positive side. I'm really not sure if using the >replacement for the off set at the front made that much difference or I just >got lucky. Three years later no uneven tire wear. I do expect at some point >in time adjustability may become an issue. > >bj >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Nederhoed" >To: >Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 7:10 AM >Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue > > > >I just rebuilt the front end (PST parts) and swapped over to 77 T-bird disc > >brakes. No problems going back together expect having to get a couple of > >brake line adpaters & rerouting both front brake lines. The problem is the > >camber seems to be extremely positive; top of tire pointing out. Prior to > >the rebuild the shim stack was about 1/2 inch and the tire looked > >vertical--now w/no shims it sticks out at the top about and inch. I even > >rotated the offset bolt at the front of the A-arm to see if it made a > >difference and it didn't seem to have an impact. So any ideas how to to get > >the correct settings? > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Galaxie mailing list > > Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca > > http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2397 - Release Date: 09/26/09 >17:51:00 > >_______________________________________________ >Galaxie mailing list >Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca >http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie Thank You Mark Reynolds / Director GALAXIE... FORD for Thought! Visit Our Club Home Page @: http://www.galaxieclub.com ...be sure to join the Club at: http://www.galaxieclub.com/appl.html you can join or renew your dues using PayPal and a Visa or Master Card at: http://www.galaxieclub.com/clubcorner.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090927/0e4bee38/attachment.html From bradlin at westman.wave.ca Mon Sep 28 00:22:45 2009 From: bradlin at westman.wave.ca (Brad & Linda Johnson) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:22:45 -0500 Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20090927204431.03cda7c0@pop.powweb.com> References: <328621.39000.qm@web38206.mail.mud.yahoo.com><328621.39000.qm@web38206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20090927204431.03cda7c0@pop.powweb.com> Message-ID: Well Mark, it seemed like the thing to do at the time, my old bushings and cranks were worn out. I got the straight shafts from Concourse Parts. http://www.concoursparts.com/ (for anyone who might not know) The car drives and handles very well now, was a bit iffy before. Oh, and it stops well too. bj ----- Original Message ----- From: Ford Galaxie Club of America To: A list for Ford Galaxie owners. Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue No, BJ...you are actually the more common. I don't hear of alignment issues with those spindles except once in a while. The straight shaft you put in is the way to go... At 07:13 PM 9/27/2009, you wrote: This seems to be a fairly common problem with using these spindles. I used spindles from a '74 Cougar (same basic spindle as the T-Bird I understand). At the same time, I did rebuild the rest of the front end. One thing I did was to replace the offsets with the high performance set up. This is comprised of inserts for the front and rear of the front frame member where the big offset bushing assembly threads into the frame. When time came to align, it was almost perfect (no shims anywhere), with the camber a hair on the positive side. I'm really not sure if using the replacement for the off set at the front made that much difference or I just got lucky. Three years later no uneven tire wear. I do expect at some point in time adjustability may become an issue. bj ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Nederhoed" To: Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 7:10 AM Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue >I just rebuilt the front end (PST parts) and swapped over to 77 T-bird disc >brakes. No problems going back together expect having to get a couple of >brake line adpaters & rerouting both front brake lines. The problem is the >camber seems to be extremely positive; top of tire pointing out. Prior to >the rebuild the shim stack was about 1/2 inch and the tire looked >vertical--now w/no shims it sticks out at the top about and inch. I even >rotated the offset bolt at the front of the A-arm to see if it made a >difference and it didn't seem to have an impact. So any ideas how to to get >the correct settings? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Galaxie mailing list > Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca > http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2397 - Release Date: 09/26/09 17:51:00 _______________________________________________ Galaxie mailing list Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie Thank You Mark Reynolds / Director GALAXIE... FORD for Thought! 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URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090927/27a1165c/attachment-0001.html From jnederhoed at yahoo.com Mon Sep 28 18:42:21 2009 From: jnederhoed at yahoo.com (John Nederhoed) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GALAXIE] 64 Galaxie w/77 T-bird Disc brake swap camber issue Message-ID: <496881.73143.qm@web38208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I posted the same question on the Ford Muscle website and was sent very informative links. http://www.fordmuscle.com/forums/galaxie-pages/453764-i-found-problem-disc-brake-swap.html http://www.fordmuscle.com/forums/galaxie-pages/453147-64-galaxie-disk-brake-swap-74-torino-problems-no-adjustment.html It appears variations during the manufacturing process is what the problem is. No one recommends redrilling the ball joint holes, but having the spindle redrilled. I got a feeling this is gonna get pricey real quick. From dngbat1 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 29 13:24:47 2009 From: dngbat1 at yahoo.com (Deb) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GALAXIE] 9" out of my car opened and revealed...what is this? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <577038.89299.qm@web52711.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Needless to say having a rearend that might as well be welded doesn't do a thing for tires. Nor does it help out much backing out of a parking space when the tranny is bad! I have a 3.50 in there now that was given to me and didn't know it was a 3.50 til I got it home but it sure beat that locked rearend by far. Nice to go around corners and not watch the gas pedal in the rain or sand/gravel on pavement and hearing the chirping of the tires. Going to be swapping again and going to a 2.75 i think this time round though. Maybe i'll save a couple gallons of gas. Someone also mentioned it was something they used for dirt track racing and supposedly it could be removed and the spiders put back in for the street. I'm not doing any dirt track either. Closest i get to that is an occasional gravel road. :) Deb Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:35:32 -0400 From: "Mike Marshall" Subject: Re: [GALAXIE] 9" out of my car opened and revealed...what is this? my neighbor (Marty Snowball a national champion drag racer) is an expert on 9 inch rear-ends from his drag racing days...he told me the following: If he is using the correct terminology, it is a Detroit locker. They made them to replace the traction lock which is a clutch deal. A locker has mechanical dogs that lock and unlock to keep both wheels in sync. When you go around corners the dogs unlock. When you are going straight the dogs lock up. they are not good for the street, they are real noisy with the dogs locking and unlocking all the time. I have had them unlock during a drag racing run and the car immediately goes side ways. More than one car hit the wall because of them. I started to shim the dogs so they cannot unlock, which makes them a spool and.... I should also say that there is a later model of the locker that they have modified over in the last few years that are supposed to be better, but I have not had one apart to see what they did. and.... It is the weakest version of the 9 inch. It is a two spider open differential. see the two side gears there are all tore up? the stronger one has 4 side gears and will not tear up. BUT that is an open rear, it has no clutches or dogs to tie the axles together. I hope this helps.... Mike From rdean769 at aol.com Wed Sep 30 19:16:34 2009 From: rdean769 at aol.com (rdean769 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:16:34 -0400 Subject: [GALAXIE] 406 tripower kick down bracket Message-ID: <8CC1032CE270117-292C-2C63@webmail-m041.sysops.aol.com> On January 26 2008, Ted Lingley wrote -- The major hurdle for me has been the? automatic linkage set up.? These Galaxie (not? t-bird) tri-powers were designed for 4 speeds and a provision for? the auto was never made by Ford as far as I can tell.? I think? I have figured out a way to install the original accelerator/kick down? bracket without modifying the intake or the car.? I plan to? design and produce a bracket to look like a dealer part that will? work on '61-'64 Galaxie big block automatics.? My question is, do? you think there's any interest out there for this bracket if it? works?? Was the bracket referred to ever made and is it available for purchase? I bought a 64 T bird that has what appears to be a 406 intake manifold with 3 Holley carbs.?? 406's I think were mated with manual transmissions.? Having problem with kickdown because my T-bird has auto transmission.? Any suggestions?? Appreciate quick responses. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090930/ec1a66bc/attachment.html From terence.turner at lmco.com Wed Sep 30 19:29:42 2009 From: terence.turner at lmco.com (Turner, Terence) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:29:42 -0600 Subject: [GALAXIE] 406 tripower kick down bracket In-Reply-To: <8CC1032CE270117-292C-2C63@webmail-m041.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC1032CE270117-292C-2C63@webmail-m041.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <0E5392F1D62A97408486B6204DA8EA2A230D9AC9@HDXMSP8.us.lmco.com> The Thunderbird linkage is completely different from the Galaxie. I have an automatic 63 Galaxie w/ 427 dual quad manifold (for stick only), and I also have a 64 T-bird with a 390. All 64 T-birds were automatic, no stick option for that year. The T-bird mounts on the firewall, different than the Galaxie. I know because I bought an extra thinking that I could mate it to the Galaxie, as I have a cruis-o-matic in the Galaxie. So, no way yet to auto downshift. Lokar says they make a cable, but it's 61" long, and they think it might work, it's for FMX transmissions, which they claim are the same. However, the factory dual quads actually run backwards, with the linkage on the passenger side. So it has to loop around the carbs to the passenger side. I haven't tried the cable yet. I for one would be greatly interested in a fabricated bracket that would attach to, maybe the bell housing, or something like that to make my linkage work. Terry Turner 63 Galaxie Conv. 3x Black 428 ________________________________ From: galaxie-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca [mailto:galaxie-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of rdean769 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:17 PM To: galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca Subject: [GALAXIE] 406 tripower kick down bracket On January 26 2008, Ted Lingley wrote -- The major hurdle for me has been the automatic linkage set up. These Galaxie (not t-bird) tri-powers were designed for 4 speeds and a provision for the auto was never made by Ford as far as I can tell. I think I have figured out a way to install the original accelerator/kick down bracket without modifying the intake or the car. I plan to design and produce a bracket to look like a dealer part that will work on '61-'64 Galaxie big block automatics. My question is, do you think there's any interest out there for this bracket if it works? Was the bracket referred to ever made and is it available for purchase? I bought a 64 T bird that has what appears to be a 406 intake manifold with 3 Holley carbs. 406's I think were mated with manual transmissions. Having problem with kickdown because my T-bird has auto transmission. Any suggestions? Appreciate quick responses. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090930/ce0fae76/attachment.html From SUBMOAX at aol.com Wed Sep 30 20:00:37 2009 From: SUBMOAX at aol.com (SUBMOAX at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:00:37 EDT Subject: [GALAXIE] 406 tripower kick down bracket Message-ID: Terry, Not sure how the application would compare to yours, but I used a Lokar cable set up on a 54 Ford with a 428 CJ and a C-6 and it was simple and worked great. Michael A. Hall President/CEO Michael Hall & Associates, Inc. 519 N. Smith Street, Suite 109 Corona, California, 92880 Phone 951-737-1031 Fax 951-737-8513 In a message dated 9/30/2009 3:30:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, terence.turner at lmco.com writes: The Thunderbird linkage is completely different from the Galaxie. I have an automatic 63 Galaxie w/ 427 dual quad manifold (for stick only), and I also have a 64 T-bird with a 390. All 64 T-birds were automatic, no stick option for that year. The T-bird mounts on the firewall, different than the Galaxie. I know because I bought an extra thinking that I could mate it to the Galaxie, as I have a cruis-o-matic in the Galaxie. So, no way yet to auto downshift. Lokar says they make a cable, but it's 61" long, and they think it might work, it's for FMX transmissions, which they claim are the same. However, the factory dual quads actually run backwards, with the linkage on the passenger side. So it has to loop around the carbs to the passenger side. I haven't tried the cable yet. I for one would be greatly interested in a fabricated bracket that would attach to, maybe the bell housing, or something like that to make my linkage work. Terry Turner 63 Galaxie Conv. 3x Black 428 ____________________________________ From: galaxie-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca [mailto:galaxie-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of rdean769 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:17 PM To: galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca Subject: [GALAXIE] 406 tripower kick down bracket On January 26 2008, Ted Lingley wrote -- The major hurdle for me has been the automatic linkage set up. These Galaxie (not t-bird) tri-powers were designed for 4 speeds and a provision for the auto was never made by Ford as far as I can tell. I think I have figured out a way to install the original accelerator/kick down bracket without modifying the intake or the car. I plan to design and produce a bracket to look like a dealer part that will work on '61-'64 Galaxie big block automatics. My question is, do you think there's any interest out there for this bracket if it works? Was the bracket referred to ever made and is it available for purchase? I bought a 64 T bird that has what appears to be a 406 intake manifold with 3 Holley carbs. 406's I think were mated with manual transmissions. Having problem with kickdown because my T-bird has auto transmission. Any suggestions? Appreciate quick responses. _______________________________________________ Galaxie mailing list Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090930/6a51aafa/attachment-0001.html From terence.turner at lmco.com Wed Sep 30 20:07:57 2009 From: terence.turner at lmco.com (Turner, Terence) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:07:57 -0600 Subject: [GALAXIE] 406 tripower kick down bracket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E5392F1D62A97408486B6204DA8EA2A230D9ACB@HDXMSP8.us.lmco.com> They have a great reputation, and I have a lot of racing friends who use their products. Not cheap, but at least they are good from what hear. I have the stock 63-64 Galaxie stainless trimmed pedal and have installed the stick shift gas pedal linkage, the linkage that also mounts to the firewall only. I don't want to change the pedal to the later model free-floating type. I want to stick with this appearance if possible, and adapt a cable to it. But I don't know how it will mate up to the dual quad linkage. Terry ________________________________ From: galaxie-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca [mailto:galaxie-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of SUBMOAX at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:01 PM To: galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca Subject: Re: [GALAXIE] 406 tripower kick down bracket Terry, Not sure how the application would compare to yours, but I used a Lokar cable set up on a 54 Ford with a 428 CJ and a C-6 and it was simple and worked great. Michael A. Hall President/CEO Michael Hall & Associates, Inc. 519 N. Smith Street, Suite 109 Corona, California, 92880 Phone 951-737-1031 Fax 951-737-8513 In a message dated 9/30/2009 3:30:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, terence.turner at lmco.com writes: The Thunderbird linkage is completely different from the Galaxie. I have an automatic 63 Galaxie w/ 427 dual quad manifold (for stick only), and I also have a 64 T-bird with a 390. All 64 T-birds were automatic, no stick option for that year. The T-bird mounts on the firewall, different than the Galaxie. I know because I bought an extra thinking that I could mate it to the Galaxie, as I have a cruis-o-matic in the Galaxie. So, no way yet to auto downshift. Lokar says they make a cable, but it's 61" long, and they think it might work, it's for FMX transmissions, which they claim are the same. However, the factory dual quads actually run backwards, with the linkage on the passenger side. So it has to loop around the carbs to the passenger side. I haven't tried the cable yet. I for one would be greatly interested in a fabricated bracket that would attach to, maybe the bell housing, or something like that to make my linkage work. Terry Turner 63 Galaxie Conv. 3x Black 428 ________________________________ From: galaxie-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca [mailto:galaxie-bounces at lists.twistedpair.ca] On Behalf Of rdean769 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:17 PM To: galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca Subject: [GALAXIE] 406 tripower kick down bracket On January 26 2008, Ted Lingley wrote -- The major hurdle for me has been the automatic linkage set up. These Galaxie (not t-bird) tri-powers were designed for 4 speeds and a provision for the auto was never made by Ford as far as I can tell. I think I have figured out a way to install the original accelerator/kick down bracket without modifying the intake or the car. I plan to design and produce a bracket to look like a dealer part that will work on '61-'64 Galaxie big block automatics. My question is, do you think there's any interest out there for this bracket if it works? Was the bracket referred to ever made and is it available for purchase? I bought a 64 T bird that has what appears to be a 406 intake manifold with 3 Holley carbs. 406's I think were mated with manual transmissions. Having problem with kickdown because my T-bird has auto transmission. Any suggestions? Appreciate quick responses. _______________________________________________ Galaxie mailing list Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090930/44f833e5/attachment.html From dave at 62ford.com Wed Sep 30 20:10:05 2009 From: dave at 62ford.com (dave) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:10:05 -0600 Subject: [GALAXIE] 406 tripower kick down bracket Message-ID: <2d7cc08a19e1465fb8232597fab31227@mail1.easyasphosting.com> I don't know if the bracket was ever made, and I don't remember the post that you quoted. I had planned to make my own bracket, but if someone was making and selling them, I would be interested depending on the price. Dave Coleman ---------------------------------------- From: rdean769 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:17 PM To: galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca Subject: [GALAXIE] 406 tripower kick down bracket On January 26 2008, Ted Lingley wrote -- The major hurdle for me has been the automatic linkage set up. These Galaxie (not t-bird) tri-powers were designed for 4 speeds and a provision for the auto was never made by Ford as far as I can tell. I think I have figured out a way to install the original accelerator/kick down bracket without modifying the intake or the car. I plan to design and produce a bracket to look like a dealer part that will work on '61-'64 Galaxie big block automatics. My question is, do you think there's any interest out there for this bracket if it works? Was the bracket referred to ever made and is it available for purchase? I bought a 64 T bird that has what appears to be a 406 intake manifold with 3 Holley carbs. 406's I think were mated with manual transmissions. Having problem with kickdown because my T-bird has auto transmission. Any suggestions? Appreciate quick responses. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090930/7d549cd2/attachment.html From SUBMOAX at aol.com Wed Sep 30 20:13:16 2009 From: SUBMOAX at aol.com (SUBMOAX at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:13:16 EDT Subject: [GALAXIE] 406 tripower kick down bracket Message-ID: Terry, The cable unit I used hooked to the carb linkage at the carb. It ran down to the trans where a bracket was installed. The kickdown linkage did not interfere or require the throttle linkage to be modified at all. Michael A. Hall President/CEO Michael Hall & Associates, Inc. 519 N. Smith Street, Suite 109 Corona, California, 92880 Phone 951-737-1031 Fax 951-737-8513 In a message dated 9/30/2009 4:08:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, terence.turner at lmco.com writes: They have a great reputation, and I have a lot of racing friends who use their products. Not cheap, but at least they are good from what hear. I have the stock 63-64 Galaxie stainless trimmed pedal and have installed the stick shift gas pedal linkage, the linkage that also mounts to the firewall only. I don't want to change the pedal to the later model free-floating type. I want to stick with this appearance if possible, and adapt a cable to it. But I don't know how it will mate up to the dual quad linkage. Terry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090930/5f63d3a8/attachment.html From lingley at earthlink.net Wed Sep 30 21:14:32 2009 From: lingley at earthlink.net (tlingley@calvalues.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:14:32 -0700 Subject: [GALAXIE] 406 tripower kick down bracket References: <8CC1032CE270117-292C-2C63@webmail-m041.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <002301ca422c$28f41700$6801a8c0@Ted> I have not. Personal issues have prevented me from applying any time to recreational pursuits such as my favorite hobby (my Galaxie). Eventually, I will pick things back up and develop the bracket. Try this site. There is a highlited section about 2/3's down the page that shows you how to convert your T-Bird 4-V kickdown assembly to a 6-V. Looks pretty easy. Hope this helps. http://www.geocities.com/tpls63/trips/tripower.html ----- Original Message ----- From: rdean769 at aol.com To: galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: [GALAXIE] 406 tripower kick down bracket On January 26 2008, Ted Lingley wrote -- The major hurdle for me has been the automatic linkage set up. These Galaxie (not t-bird) tri-powers were designed for 4 speeds and a provision for the auto was never made by Ford as far as I can tell. I think I have figured out a way to install the original accelerator/kick down bracket without modifying the intake or the car. I plan to design and produce a bracket to look like a dealer part that will work on '61-'64 Galaxie big block automatics. My question is, do you think there's any interest out there for this bracket if it works? Was the bracket referred to ever made and is it available for purchase? I bought a 64 T bird that has what appears to be a 406 intake manifold with 3 Holley carbs. 406's I think were mated with manual transmissions. Having problem with kickdown because my T-bird has auto transmission. Any suggestions? Appreciate quick responses. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Galaxie mailing list Galaxie at lists.twistedpair.ca http://lists.twistedpair.ca/mailman/listinfo.cgi/galaxie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.twistedpair.ca/pipermail/galaxie/attachments/20090930/83681bec/attachment-0001.html